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	<title>Comments on: The &#8216;Ol Knee and Ontario Health Care</title>
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		<title>By: Highly Obsessed: The Snowboarding &#38; Cycling Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.highlyobsessed.com/2006/03/25/the-ol-knee-and-ontario-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Highly Obsessed: The Snowboarding &#38; Cycling Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] getting a knee drained - been there, done that. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.highlyobsessed.com/2006/03/25/the-ol-knee-and-ontario-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care is an emotional subject that brings out some of the worst economic thinking. In some sense we&#039;ve always been in a health care crisis and we always will be in a health care crisis. The nature of health care, because it&#039;s always changing and it&#039;s getting better all the time, means that we can never completely resolve the problems that we&#039;re facing today and that we never have resolved them in the past.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care is an emotional subject that brings out some of the worst economic thinking. In some sense we&#8217;ve always been in a health care crisis and we always will be in a health care crisis. The nature of health care, because it&#8217;s always changing and it&#8217;s getting better all the time, means that we can never completely resolve the problems that we&#8217;re facing today and that we never have resolved them in the past.<br />
<a href="http://www.merchantadvisors.com/agents.asp/" rel="nofollow">Cash Advance</a>,  <strong>Turn your future sales into immediate business cash!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I had to wait *no time* for ortho rehab. That started right away. The waits were a) for an MRI (and you can check the Ont. gov&#039;t website and it&#039;ll tell you most Toronto hospitals have quite a wait) and b) for the surgery itself (I was looking at six months.. others I&#039;ve met were waiting the same.. I ended up delaying mine PAST six months in order to time it properly between snowboarding seasons).
--adam

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I had to wait *no time* for ortho rehab. That started right away. The waits were a) for an MRI (and you can check the Ont. gov&#8217;t website and it&#8217;ll tell you most Toronto hospitals have quite a wait) and b) for the surgery itself (I was looking at six months.. others I&#8217;ve met were waiting the same.. I ended up delaying mine PAST six months in order to time it properly between snowboarding seasons).<br />
&#8211;adam</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.highlyobsessed.com/2006/03/25/the-ol-knee-and-ontario-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Starbuck21, try reading the Romanow report to get an understanding of the pros and cons of government funded healthcare. Aren&#039;t medical bills the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US?
To the rest of you - Grow up. Maybe someone would give a damn if you all didn&#039;t come off as pouty teenagers.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Starbuck21, try reading the Romanow report to get an understanding of the pros and cons of government funded healthcare. Aren&#8217;t medical bills the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US?<br />
To the rest of you &#8211; Grow up. Maybe someone would give a damn if you all didn&#8217;t come off as pouty teenagers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, maybe you guys just need to improve your research skills. The College of Physicians and Surgeons can give you the name of family doctors accepting patients in your area. Also, I work in healthcare, Orthopedic Rehab actually, and I&#039;ve never heard of the wait times you described. We have people coming in every week, and I&#039;ve never seen anyone wait as long as you. Maybe you were unlucky?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, maybe you guys just need to improve your research skills. The College of Physicians and Surgeons can give you the name of family doctors accepting patients in your area. Also, I work in healthcare, Orthopedic Rehab actually, and I&#8217;ve never heard of the wait times you described. We have people coming in every week, and I&#8217;ve never seen anyone wait as long as you. Maybe you were unlucky?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m sorry to hear that. Your best bet, I think, is to find a private MRI clinic.. though that is expensive. (I know they exist in Quebec but I don&#039;t know where else in the Maritimes.)
Amazingly, apparently Ontario and Manitoba lead the way for shortest wait times. Check out this link:
http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?snav=nr&amp;id=689
Good luck,
adam

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m sorry to hear that. Your best bet, I think, is to find a private MRI clinic.. though that is expensive. (I know they exist in Quebec but I don&#8217;t know where else in the Maritimes.)<br />
Amazingly, apparently Ontario and Manitoba lead the way for shortest wait times. Check out this link:<br />
<a href="http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?snav=nr&#038;id=689" rel="nofollow">http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?snav=nr&#038;id=689</a><br />
Good luck,<br />
adam</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is my story.... I went skiing in Feb and busted my knee. I couldn&#039;t walk for about 1 week. Apparently I broke my ACL and type 2 tare on my MCL my leg kept giving out to. I went to physico for 2.5 months 3x / week and was doing well. my GP sent me back to work when I still didn&#039;t think I was ready beacuse I was still in pain in the morning. so here I am working at a coffee shop 40 hours / week and my leg gives out constintly at the worst times. I am expected to stand all day. So I said I can&#039;t deal with this anymore and called my doctor. I was told in Nova Scotia to even hear back when the MRI will be takes 3 months and they usually take 6 months from that time so that is 9 MONTHS!!!!!! and my legs HURTS I am only 23 years old and I have to literally pull myself up to the 4th floor every day. One thigh is 2 inches smaller than the other one. I can&#039;t swim, I can&#039;t run, jog, walk up/down hills/stairs. and I&#039;ve been told I have broken cartlege in my knee (miniskis(bad spelling)) so what to do. It is about 9-12 months for the surgery and they don&#039;t even have the MRI. It is summer time i&#039;m going to get fat now because stupid easy shit is so friggen hard to do. I want to move!!!! where are the shortest times to wait in Canada someone help me I hate this place!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is my story&#8230;. I went skiing in Feb and busted my knee. I couldn&#8217;t walk for about 1 week. Apparently I broke my ACL and type 2 tare on my MCL my leg kept giving out to. I went to physico for 2.5 months 3x / week and was doing well. my GP sent me back to work when I still didn&#8217;t think I was ready beacuse I was still in pain in the morning. so here I am working at a coffee shop 40 hours / week and my leg gives out constintly at the worst times. I am expected to stand all day. So I said I can&#8217;t deal with this anymore and called my doctor. I was told in Nova Scotia to even hear back when the MRI will be takes 3 months and they usually take 6 months from that time so that is 9 MONTHS!!!!!! and my legs HURTS I am only 23 years old and I have to literally pull myself up to the 4th floor every day. One thigh is 2 inches smaller than the other one. I can&#8217;t swim, I can&#8217;t run, jog, walk up/down hills/stairs. and I&#8217;ve been told I have broken cartlege in my knee (miniskis(bad spelling)) so what to do. It is about 9-12 months for the surgery and they don&#8217;t even have the MRI. It is summer time i&#8217;m going to get fat now because stupid easy shit is so friggen hard to do. I want to move!!!! where are the shortest times to wait in Canada someone help me I hate this place!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any way you look at it, government controlled healthcare is going to be a pain the butt. i&#039;m from the U.S., and am a forensic nursing/criminal psych major, and i&#039;ll tell you right now the most trouble we have with healthcare providers is when it&#039;s government regulated, like social security and medicare.  while free healthcare for everyone sounds great, it never really works out the way it&#039;s supposed to, like the paramedic from germany said.  my cousin&#039;s grandparents live in germany, and several years ago when Opa had some health problems, he got put on a waiting list for several months and by the time he even got in for a preliminary examination with the doctor he had gangrene in his feet and ended up losing some toes and was stuck in a wheelchair for the last few years of his life. and even in the U.S., it&#039;s worth paying for the ambulance if you need immediate care because of the healthcare professional shortage- and even though salaries are pretty good (i&#039;m looking at a couple hundred thousand a year after grad school- thank god i can pay off my loans) the malpractice insurance is through the roof and the insurance companies are insane.  some government regulation is necessary, but it shouldn&#039;t be federal- each state (or province in your case) would be better off going on individual cases and determining what regulation is needed so people don&#039;t have to wait for necessary treatment- like my 3-year old brother who had to waith six months for treatment because he had Lyme&#039;s disease, which isn&#039;t a &quot;politically correct&quot; disease because most general physicians (and neurologists) don&#039;t understand one hell of alot how to treat it, and insurance companies don&#039;t want to pay for something they don&#039;t understand, even though it&#039;s at epidemic proportions in my area and a six-week old baby has seizures for over half a year for &quot;unexplained reasons.&quot; but enough with the horror stories, good luck with your knee, hopefully it was just a pinched blood vessel that ruptured and caused it to swell like that and the actual damage isn&#039;t too bad.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any way you look at it, government controlled healthcare is going to be a pain the butt. i&#8217;m from the U.S., and am a forensic nursing/criminal psych major, and i&#8217;ll tell you right now the most trouble we have with healthcare providers is when it&#8217;s government regulated, like social security and medicare.  while free healthcare for everyone sounds great, it never really works out the way it&#8217;s supposed to, like the paramedic from germany said.  my cousin&#8217;s grandparents live in germany, and several years ago when Opa had some health problems, he got put on a waiting list for several months and by the time he even got in for a preliminary examination with the doctor he had gangrene in his feet and ended up losing some toes and was stuck in a wheelchair for the last few years of his life. and even in the U.S., it&#8217;s worth paying for the ambulance if you need immediate care because of the healthcare professional shortage- and even though salaries are pretty good (i&#8217;m looking at a couple hundred thousand a year after grad school- thank god i can pay off my loans) the malpractice insurance is through the roof and the insurance companies are insane.  some government regulation is necessary, but it shouldn&#8217;t be federal- each state (or province in your case) would be better off going on individual cases and determining what regulation is needed so people don&#8217;t have to wait for necessary treatment- like my 3-year old brother who had to waith six months for treatment because he had Lyme&#8217;s disease, which isn&#8217;t a &#8220;politically correct&#8221; disease because most general physicians (and neurologists) don&#8217;t understand one hell of alot how to treat it, and insurance companies don&#8217;t want to pay for something they don&#8217;t understand, even though it&#8217;s at epidemic proportions in my area and a six-week old baby has seizures for over half a year for &#8220;unexplained reasons.&#8221; but enough with the horror stories, good luck with your knee, hopefully it was just a pinched blood vessel that ruptured and caused it to swell like that and the actual damage isn&#8217;t too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s the case with me, all above commenters are gonna get drunk with me on my tab!

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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I wasn&#039;t on a waiting list. I was really surprised at how fast I got in because I had heard that waiting times were bad for MRI&#039;s.
Funny thing is: my MRI showed a small tear in the carilage,  but about a week later the knee started feeling better, and now it&#039;s fine! Go figure ...
Good luck with the knee,
JB.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I wasn&#8217;t on a waiting list. I was really surprised at how fast I got in because I had heard that waiting times were bad for MRI&#8217;s.<br />
Funny thing is: my MRI showed a small tear in the carilage,  but about a week later the knee started feeling better, and now it&#8217;s fine! Go figure &#8230;<br />
Good luck with the knee,<br />
JB.</p>
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